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Mar 10, 2018
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Scott Alexander defends his 'Against Murderism' post against Nathan Robinson's criticism, arguing that Robinson misrepresented his arguments and ignored key parts of the original post. Longer summary
Scott Alexander responds to Nathan Robinson's criticism of his 'Against Murderism' post. He argues that Robinson misrepresented his argument by ignoring key parts of the original post where Scott had already addressed the counterarguments Robinson raised. Scott points out that he had extensively discussed the 'Definition By Consequences' and 'Definition By Motive' concepts in his original post, contrary to Robinson's claim that Scott was unaware of these ideas. Scott also provides examples from Current Affairs, Robinson's own magazine, that contradict Robinson's assertion that progressives don't portray racists as monsters. Finally, Scott expresses frustration at being accused of refusing to dialogue with political opponents, revealing that he had previously reached out to Robinson for a private discussion, which Robinson declined due to time constraints. Shorter summary
Jun 21, 2017
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42 min 6,392 words
Scott Alexander critiques the concept of 'racism' as an oversimplified explanation for complex issues, arguing for a more nuanced approach to understanding and addressing societal problems. Longer summary
Scott Alexander critiques the concept of 'racism' as a catch-all term that conflates different motives and beliefs, leading to ineffective discourse and polarization. He argues that treating racism as a simple explanation for complex issues prevents understanding root causes and finding effective solutions. The post uses an analogy of 'murderism' to illustrate how this approach is flawed, and suggests that breaking down racist actions into non-racist motives can lead to better outcomes. Scott emphasizes the importance of maintaining liberal values and open dialogue to prevent societal breakdown. Shorter summary
Nov 04, 2014
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Scott Alexander examines how debates often revolve around vague concepts with positive or negative associations rather than specific claims, leading to logical fallacies and tribal thinking. Longer summary
Scott Alexander explores the concept of 'ethnic tension' in arguments, showing how debates often center around vague concepts loaded with good or bad karma rather than specific factual or moral claims. He argues this leads to motte-and-bailey fallacies, tribal affiliations, and motivated reasoning. The post analyzes how concepts become associated with groups, creating proxy ethnicities and making rational debate difficult. Scott suggests precision and separating concepts as a potential solution to this problem. Shorter summary
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